{"id":74,"date":"2006-12-29T11:52:18","date_gmt":"2006-12-29T18:52:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/2006\/12\/29\/the-case-of-the-battling-proof-texts-part-one\/"},"modified":"2015-10-19T20:32:58","modified_gmt":"2015-10-20T03:32:58","slug":"the-case-of-the-battling-proof-texts-part-one","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/2006\/12\/29\/the-case-of-the-battling-proof-texts-part-one\/","title":{"rendered":"The case of the battling proof texts, Part One"},"content":{"rendered":"<body>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">One of the things that bugs me when Christians have discussions about the women\u2019s issue is the point when they are at loggerheads regarding \u201cproof texts\u201d.  One person says they have their \u201cproof text\u201d scripture and so they are not willing to listen to what the other person has to say.  The other person also has their \u201cproof texts\u201d and also isn\u2019t willing to budge.  However proof texting is simply not good enough.  While you may have one verse that seems to agree with you, you also need to deal with the texts that don\u2019t agree with you.  This is the point where many people give up.  They hold onto their proof text and stubbornly refuse to look outside of their already made-up mindset.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">So how do we handle the situation when we come up against someone who is holding onto a wrong interpretation because of their \u201cproof text\u201d? What we need to do is to look carefully at their proof text and examine it within its entire context.  That entire context may be broader than the chapter it is in and may include the entire book of the Bible that it is included in.  Why is this important?  It is important because if we do battle with our \u201cproof texts\u201d <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">we are in essence saying that the Bible contradicts itself<\/span>.\u00a0 Do you believe that?  I don\u2019t.   So now here comes the challenge \u2013  instead of retreating to your corner with your proof text, how about proving that the Bible doesn\u2019t contradict itself?<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">There are three things that one must arm oneself with when looking at the opposition\u2019s \u201cproof text\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">1.  A good Greek\/Hebrew dictionary that can help you look up the words in the \u201cproof text\u201d to see if the words mean what the challenger says they mean.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">2. A willingness to dig into the larger context to see if the challenger\u2019s interpretation of their \u201cproof text\u201d is consistent with the meaning of the complete context.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">3.  Most important of all, pray for wisdom and ask the Holy Spirit to guide you to the correct understanding so that you will know what God\u2019s will is.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">While I was researching the women\u2019s issue, I found that most of the proof for women being allowed to teach the Bible to men was done through looking at Biblical examples of women who were in leadership positions or who were called to give out God\u2019s word through prophecy or through judging the nation.  There were also a lot of sound arguments given for why God uses women in ministry and why women shouldn\u2019t be silenced from giving out God\u2019s word to people today.  Those were very good reasons, but I found there wasn\u2019t as much work put into some of the hard passages that seem to forbid women from ministering.  Some people just said that Paul was a misogynist, or he changed his mind later, or we should just ignore these passages as they have no meaning for today or that these passages were not truly scripture.  I found that unsatisfying because I believe that each word, each piece of grammar and each passage is God breathed and is in the Bible for a reason.  So I set out to find out what each disputed passage meant in its context that would allow no word or piece of grammar to be disregarded.  My research was made into a script and then into a DVD series called <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Women-Ministry-Silenced-Set-Free\/dp\/B000FW4N60\/sr=8-1\/qid=1167428095\/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1\/102-3950397-8218547?ie=UTF8&amp;s=dvd\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cWomen in Ministry Silenced or Set Free?\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">One standing challenge that I have towards complementarians who believe that women are not allowed to teach the bible to men, is to show me from the complete context of 1 Timothy chapters 1 and 2 how they can fit into that passage the interpretation that God is not allowing godly Christian women from teaching correct biblical doctrine to men.  My exegesis of the passage in <a href=\"http:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/2006\/12\/02\/what-does-1-timothy-211-15-mean\/\" target=\"_blank\">point form is found here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">So does the Bible contradict itself?  Absolutely not!  Next time we will discuss some key questions from the scriptures that complementarians need to answer instead of just retreating to their \u201cproof text\u201d corners.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">\n<\/p>\n<\/body>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the things that bugs me when Christians have discussions about the women\u2019s issue is the point when they are at loggerheads regarding \u201cproof texts\u201d. One person says they have their \u201cproof text\u201d scripture and so they are not willing to listen to what the other person has to say. The other person also has their \u201cproof texts\u201d and also isn\u2019t willing to budge. However proof texting is simply not good enough. 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