{"id":736,"date":"2008-12-01T03:36:05","date_gmt":"2008-12-01T10:36:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/?p=736"},"modified":"2015-10-19T20:27:18","modified_gmt":"2015-10-20T03:27:18","slug":"do-egalitarians-twist-the-scriptures","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/2008\/12\/01\/do-egalitarians-twist-the-scriptures\/","title":{"rendered":"Do egalitarians twist the scriptures?"},"content":{"rendered":"<body>\n<p><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-737\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/twist.jpg?resize=178%2C262\" alt=\"twist on Women in Ministry blog by Cheryl Schatz\" width=\"178\" height=\"262\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/p>\n<p>The charge is often laid that egalitarians twist the scriptures.\u00a0 I would like to apply a saying that I read recently.\u00a0 Here it is:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>(Complementarians) are quick to accuse of foul play but there are no rules that <strong>they<\/strong> have to follow.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>What egalitarians are trying so hard to do is interpret scripture with scripture and take the full context instead of isolating scriptures from their context.\u00a0 Let\u2019s see if complementarians play by the same rules or if they hold themselves as exempt from their own rules.<\/p>\n<p>1.\u00a0 1 Timothy 2:11-15 is used as a general principle that forbids godly Christian women from using their God-given gifts for the benefit of their Christian brothers.\u00a0 If this is true as complementarians assert it is, can you please tell me why Paul uses singular and a plural grammar in verse 15?\u00a0 Who is the \u201cshe\u201d who will be saved in the future if \u201cthey\u201d continue on in faith, love, holiness and self control?\u00a0 Isn\u2019t it a twist to ignore the specific grammar of verse 15 which is the conclusion to the prohibition?\u00a0 How can we know who Paul is prohibiting in verse 12 if we do not know who the \u201cshe\u201d and \u201cthey\u201d are in verse 15?<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>2.\u00a0 If Paul was restricting all godly Christian women from teaching correct biblical doctrine to their Christian brothers, then why didn\u2019t Paul also list this as a reason why Timothy was left behind in Ephesus?\u00a0 Paul said that he left Timothy behind to stop certain ones from teaching strange doctrines.\u00a0 How come he didn\u2019t add that Timothy was left behind to also stop the women from teaching men?\u00a0 Isn\u2019t it a twist to add the stopping of correct biblical teaching as a prohibition in chapter 2 when the only teaching that is stopped in the letter is false teaching?<\/p>\n<p>3.\u00a0 If 1 Corinthians 14:34, 35 is not a quotation from the Corinthian\u2019s letter to Paul (see 1 Cor. 7:1), a saying that Paul refutes in verse 36, then why would Paul say that women are to keep completely silent in the church when he had just written at the beginning of the chapter that all are allowed to prophesy?\u00a0 Wouldn\u2019t verses 34 &amp; 35 as a new \u201claw\u201d that is never found anywhere else in the bible and coming right after Paul has already released women to speak in the congregation be considered a \u201ctwist\u201d to attribute this \u201claw\u201d to Paul\u2019s words and not to the Corinthian\u2019s letter to Paul?<\/p>\n<p>4.\u00a0\u00a0 In 1 Corinthians 11:10, the original Greek says that the woman ought to have authority over her head.\u00a0 The word for authority here is exousia which always means that the person themselves has the permission, authority, right, liberty and power to do something.\u00a0 Isn\u2019t it a twist to change the word for \u201cauthority\u201d into a meaning that one is under some else\u2019s authority by adding the phrase \u201ca symbol of\u201d that is not even in the text?\u00a0 If this isn\u2019t a \u201ctwist\u201d on the word exousia, then somebody is playing without any rules.<\/p>\n<p>If there is any honest-hearted complementarians out there who would like to try to answer my challenge, feel free to put your two cents worth in the comment section.\u00a0 You will be treated with Christian respect and your answers will be considered and then tested against the scripture to see if they measure up.<\/p>\n<\/body>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The charge is often laid that egalitarians twist the scriptures.\u00a0 I would like to apply a saying that I read recently.\u00a0 Here it is: (Complementarians) are quick to accuse of foul play but there are no rules that they have to follow. 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