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In 1 Timothy 2:12 is there one prohibition or two?\u00a0 Complementarians typically say that Paul is prohibiting two things (teaching and exercising authority over a man) while many egalitarians are taking the position that there is only one thing that Paul has prohibited.\u00a0 The prohibition is listed as God is against women assuming authority for themselves to teach men<\/strong><\/em>.\u00a0 This view has been brought out by Philip B. Payne in \u201cMan and Woman One in Christ\u201d pg 338.<\/p>\n

I do not agree with complementarians that there are two entirely separate prohibitions that are not connected.\u00a0 But I do not agree with Philip Payne either that there is only one prohibition<\/strong><\/em> and that this prohibition is to be defined as the forbidding of women to assume authority<\/strong><\/em> for themselves<\/strong><\/em> to teach men without a properly delegated authority<\/strong><\/em> from men.<\/p>\n

I will be developing this post in the next few days as I have time, and I may add to it as the discussion continues.\u00a0 The original discussion that promoted this post was from ongoing discussion here http:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/2010\/08\/10\/1-timothy-215-going-deeper\/<\/strong> I will be shutting down the comments there as the posts tend to have problems when the comments reach a very high number and\/or when the comments reach a certain length. At that time the comments\u00a0 usually just disappear.\u00a0 So while I get this article together, comments are open here to continue discussion and I will flesh out my own view in the next few days.<\/p>\n

Thanks to Kristen for suggesting this topic as one for discussion and I trust that hashing out different views and finding holes and\/or support for the different views will be very educational for us all.<\/p>\n

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In 1 Timothy 2:12 is there one prohibition or two?\u00a0 Complementarians typically say that Paul is prohibiting two things (teaching and exercising authority over a man) while many egalitarians are taking the position that there is only one thing that Paul has prohibited.\u00a0 The prohibition is listed as God is against women assuming authority for themselves to teach men.\u00a0 This view has been brought out by Philip B. Payne in \u201cMan and Woman One in Christ\u201d pg 338. I do…<\/p>\n

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