{"id":1682,"date":"2009-11-30T16:19:10","date_gmt":"2009-11-30T23:19:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/?p=1682"},"modified":"2015-10-19T20:25:08","modified_gmt":"2015-10-20T03:25:08","slug":"does-god-torment-women","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/2009\/11\/30\/does-god-torment-women\/","title":{"rendered":"Examining the complementarian view: Does God like to torment women?"},"content":{"rendered":"<body>\n<p><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1683\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/god-torment-women.jpg?resize=400%2C281\" alt=\"Does God torment Women?  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Is it in the nature of our God to be delighted to torment people with temptations to sin through what He alone provides? \u00a0That can\u2019t be right since the Bible says that God cannot tempt anyone.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>James 1:13 \u00a0Let no one say when he is tempted, \u201cI am being tempted by God\u201d; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The problem extends further because God not only gifts us with His spiritual gifts, but He commands us to use these gifts for the common good.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>1 Peter 4:10 \u00a0As each one has received a special gift, employ it in serving one another as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.<\/p>\n<p>1 Peter 4:11 \u00a0Whoever speaks, is to do so as one who is speaking the utterances of God; whoever serves is to do so as one who is serving by the strength which God supplies; so that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belongs the glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.&lt;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I am not sure if complementarian men even understand the questions I am asking. \u00a0Has a man ever been gifted by God and then forbidden to use his gifts for the benefit of the body of Christ? \u00a0What would that feel like? \u00a0Would there be tension between his passion to serve the Lord Jesus and then a holding back of his spirit while he is forbidden to fulfill his God-given desire? \u00a0This kind of thing actually does happen in parts of the world where God has gifted and called men to serve Him but they are forbidden by ungodly governments who want to destroy the church and prevent the gospel of Jesus from going forth. \u00a0But can we say that God joins these ungodly governments by restricting some from using their gifts for the benefit of the church?<\/p>\n<p>So where is the nature of God in this debate? \u00a0What does the Scripture say about God giving gifts on one hand and then apparently mocking women by charging them with sin for daring to use their gifts for the common good? \u00a0Doesn\u2019t the Bible say that He will not withhold any good thing from those who walk righteously with Him?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Psalm 84:11 \u00a0For the LORD God is a sun and shield; The LORD gives grace and glory; No good thing does He withhold from those who walk uprightly.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Is not being a part of the giving out of the gospel a good thing? \u00a0Is God going to go back on His promise and withhold women\u2019s ministry to half of the body of Christ?<\/p>\n<p>How about this scripture:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Galatians 6:7 \u00a0Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Is the act of a woman sowing godly Christian doctrine into the lives of \u00a0men an act that will reap eternal punishment in hell? \u00a0How dare we say such a thing?<\/p>\n<p>And what about these scriptures:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>1 Cor 6:9 \u00a0Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,<br>\n1 Cor 6:10 \u00a0nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.<br>\n1 Cor 6:11 \u00a0Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Is it also true that godly women who teach the Bible to men will not inherit the kingdom of God? \u00a0Shall we add \u201cwomen pastors\u201d to the list of those who will not inherit the kingdom of God because they dared to love their brothers in Christ enough to use their God-given gifts for the benefit of men? \u00a0In 1 Cor. 6:11 are we to add that \u201cWomen pastors or Bible teachers to men \u2013 such were some of you but you have been washed from being a woman pastor and you have been sanctified from being a godly woman Bible teacher to men? \u00a0Is this really how the Scripture reads?<\/p>\n<p>Jesus described what defiles a man or a woman.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Matthew 15:10 \u00a0After Jesus called the crowd to Him, He said to them, \u201cHear and understand.<br>\nMatthew 15:11 \u00a0\u201cIt is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Does godly Bible teaching coming out of the mouth of a woman defile her?<\/p>\n<p>Is it possible that some who restrict women from preaching the gospel to men are so in love with their own unlimited freedom in the body of Christ that they are unwilling to even think through this issue to release God\u2019s women for service? 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