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This is question #3<\/strong> of a 10 question debate between Mike Seaver<\/a><\/strong> and Cheryl Schatz<\/strong><\/a> on the issue of women in ministry. \u00a0The discussion will take the form of five questions posed by Cheryl Schatz with answers by Mike Seaver and then five questions posed by Mike Seaver with answers by Cheryl Schatz. \u00a0Each question and answer session will be followed up in the next post by one response each from both Mike and Cheryl. \u00a0Links to the questions and the responses will be at the bottom of this post.<\/p>\n

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#3 Question by Cheryl Schatz:<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

Does God have a \u201claw\u201d that forbids men from listening to a woman teach the bible? \u00a0If so, then where is this law given to men? \u00a0If not, why not? \u00a0 Why would it be a sin for a woman to teach the bible but not an equal sin for a man to allow her to teach him? \u00a0Also if men are not allowed to listen to a woman teach, then how will they be able to correct her errors? \u00a0Are women the only ones that men cannot listen to their teaching and cannot correct their errors because they cannot listen for fear of being taught?<\/p>\n

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#3 Answer by Mike Seaver:<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

Great question! \u00a0I think based on my view of 1Timothy 2:12, just like a woman should not teach or exercise authority over a man (and I\u2019m saying teach or exercise authority by teaching the bible) I think a man should equally not place himself under the authority of a woman\u2019s teaching. \u00a0I would agree that this would be equally going against Scripture. \u00a0If a woman is not preaching sermons, then a man has no need to evaluate them because they do not happen. \u00a0If the woman is teaching other women, then she can be evaluated by the other ladies. \u00a0This happens all the time in my church. \u00a0We have very gifted ladies who teach and very gifted ladies who can evaluate. \u00a0My wife has a seminary masters degree\u2026she is good at both teaching and evaluating other ladies. \u00a0She also gives me tons of helpful feedback about my own messages (a lot like Pricilla with Apollos).<\/p>\n

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In the next post, Cheryl will respond to Mike\u2019s answer and Mike will have the last word on this question as he gives the rejoinder to Cheryl\u2019s response. \u00a0The next post will go online August 19th.<\/p>\n

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Links:<\/p>\n

Questi0n #1 and Mike\u2019s answers<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n

Responses to Question #1<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n

Question #2 and Mike\u2019s answers<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n

Responses to Question #2<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n

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