{"id":1281,"date":"2009-08-24T06:00:37","date_gmt":"2009-08-24T13:00:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/?p=1281"},"modified":"2015-10-19T20:26:24","modified_gmt":"2015-10-20T03:26:24","slug":"mike-seaver-and-cheryl-schatz-7","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/2009\/08\/24\/mike-seaver-and-cheryl-schatz-7\/","title":{"rendered":"Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz discuss\/debate women in ministry 7"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

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This is question #4<\/em><\/strong> of a 10 question discussion\/debate between\u00a0Mike Seaver<\/a><\/strong>and Cheryl Schatz<\/strong><\/a> on the issue of women in ministry. \u00a0The discussion will take the form of five questions posed by Cheryl Schatz with answers by Mike Seaver and then five questions posed by Mike Seaver with answers by Cheryl Schatz. \u00a0Each question and answer session will be followed up in the next post by one response each from both Mike and Cheryl. \u00a0Links to the questions and the responses will be at the bottom of this post. \u00a0Mike\u2019s corresponding post on his blog is\u00a0here<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n

#4 Question by Cheryl Schatz:<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

God has given us the authority to use our gifts for the benefit of the body of Christ in 1 Peter 4:10, 11:<\/p>\n

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1 Peter 4:10 \u00a0As each one has received a special gift, employ it in serving one another as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.<\/p>\n

1 Peter 4:11 \u00a0Whoever speaks, is to do so as one who is speaking the utterances of God; whoever serves is to do so as one who is serving by the strength which God supplies; so that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belongs the glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

If God has gifted a woman with the gift of speaking \u201cthe utterances of God\u201d in the strength of service that God supplies, by what authority does man have to forbid a woman from using that authority for speaking the utterances of God? \u00a0Please show a verse that instructs all pastors, elders, leaders to single women out and stop them from using their utterance gifts?<\/p>\n

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#4 Answer by Mike Seaver:<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

I don\u2019t think there is a verse. \u00a0I think that woman who have a speaking gift are to use it for God\u2019s glory in the way God designed them to. \u00a0If God gives the gifts, I think that it is okay for him to set parameters on the gift though. \u00a0Just like He does with tongues and prophesy (1 Cor. 14). \u00a01 Timothy 3:2 says that an overseer is the \u201chusband of one wife\/woman.\u201d \u00a0He is the teacher of the church (or one of the teachers) and in the qualifications it speaks to men. \u00a0So, I think gifted women should use their gifts, but I just don\u2019t think they should teach men (1 Tim. 2:12). \u00a0They are to teach other women (Titus 2:4-5).<\/p>\n

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Cheryl\u2019s response and Mike\u2019s rejoinder will follow on August 26th, 2009.<\/p>\n

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Links to previous segments of the debate:<\/p>\n

Questi0n #1 and Mike\u2019s answers<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n

Responses to Question #1<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n

Question #2 and Mike\u2019s answers<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n

Responses to Question #2<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n

Question #3 by Cheryl and Mike\u2019s answers<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n

Responses to Question #3<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n

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