In our discussions on Genesis there has come one puzzling question. If Adam alone sinned willfully and the woman fell into sin through deception, then why did God punish Eve so severely for her sin?
I would like to propose that we have misunderstood what happened when God dealt with Adam, the woman and the serpent. [...]
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Another reason some complementarians claim for denying women opportunities to minister in the church is that it is said that women are more easily deceived than men so men alone are permitted to minister in the church. A good example of this kind of rationale is found here with this excerpt:
But why should Eve’s being [...]
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Another common objection to women in ministry is the claim that when women speak and lead publicly it dishonors men.
The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood (CBMW) speaks of this as dishonoring the “calling” of men:
We would say that the teaching inappropriate for a woman is the teaching of men in settings or ways that dishonor [...]
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Posted in 1 Timothy 2, Authority and Women, Injustice towards women, News, Opposing viewpoints, Prejudice in the church, Southern Baptists, Spiritual gifts, Women Pastors, Women serving in the church on Nov 17th, 2009
On November 11, 2009 the Georgia Baptist Convention adopted a policy that ended its 148 year relationship with First Baptist Church of Decatur, Georgia. According to the Associated Baptist News,
Pastor Julie Pennington-Russell read a letter at the end of both worship services Nov. 15 from Robert White, executive director of the 1.3 million-member state convention. It [...]
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Here is an especially moving call to husbands to rethink what the term “head” means:
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Posted in 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 2, Answering complementarian arguments, Authority and Women, Challenges, Complementarian errors, Debates, Egalitarian web sites, Handling Opposition, Injustice towards women, Opposing viewpoints, Prejudice in the church, Reaching out to Complementarians, Southern Baptists, Women Pastors, Women serving in the church on Sep 2nd, 2009
Responses to question #5
In the last blog post Cheryl Schatz posed her fifth set of questions to Mike Seaver regarding their discussion/debate on women in ministry. Links to all the previous questions and responses is at the end of this post. This discussion will be Cheryl’s response to Mike’s answers on question #5 and Mike’s rejoinder. Mike’s [...]
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Posted in 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 2, 1 Timothy 3, Authority and Women, Authority and leadership, Debates, Egalitarian vs complementarian, Injustice towards women, Opposing viewpoints, Prejudice in the church, Spiritual gifts, Women Pastors, Women serving in the church on Aug 26th, 2009
Responses to question #4
In the last blog post Cheryl Schatz posed her 4th set of questions to Mike Seaver regarding their discussion/debate on women in ministry. Links to all the previous questions and responses is at the end of this post. This discussion will be Cheryl’s response to Mike’s answers on question #4 and Mike’s rejoinder.
Cheryl Schatz [...]
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Posted in 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 2, 1 Timothy 3, Authority and Women, Authority and leadership, Challenges, Debates, Egalitarian vs complementarian, Injustice towards women, Opposing viewpoints, Prejudice in the church, Spiritual gifts, Women Pastors, Women serving in the church on Aug 24th, 2009
This is question #4 of a 10 question discussion/debate between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on the issue of women in ministry. The discussion will take the form of five questions posed by Cheryl Schatz with answers by Mike Seaver and then five questions posed by Mike Seaver with answers by Cheryl Schatz. Each question and [...]
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This is question #3 of a 10 question debate between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on the issue of women in ministry. The discussion will take the form of five questions posed by Cheryl Schatz with answers by Mike Seaver and then five questions posed by Mike Seaver with answers by Cheryl Schatz. Each question [...]
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In the last blog post Cheryl Schatz posed her second set of questions to Mike Seaver regarding their discussion/debate on women in ministry. Links to all the previous questions and responses is at the end of this post. This discussion will be Cheryl’s response to Mike’s answers on question #2 and Mike’s rejoinder.
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Regarding Mike’s denial [...]
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This is question #2 of a 10 question discussion/debate between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on the issue of women in ministry. The discussion will take the form of five questions posed by Cheryl Schatz with answers by Mike Seaver and then five questions posed by Mike Seaver with answers by Cheryl Schatz. Each question [...]
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Jimmy Carter writes “Losing my religion for equality“
I HAVE been a practising Christian all my life and a deacon and Bible teacher for many years. My faith is a source of strength and comfort to me, as religious beliefs are to hundreds of millions of people around the world. So my decision to sever my [...]
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This post is from an inspiration I got from Katie Cole’s blog and a two part segment on Youtube on the issue of women in ministry from the series “Designing Women”. Katie writes:
One Bible verse, quoted to me out of context on its own, is no longer sufficient for me.
I think you will find the [...]
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When does explaining God’s word make one an enemy of the church? According to Mike Seaver, a woman who is allowed to teach the word of God to men, even if she is under the authority of her husband and even if she has received authority from her pastor to teach the bible (and assuming [...]
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For those of you who are experiencing church abuse or know of someone who has experienced abuse from a church leader, Dr. Barb Orlowski has her book online at churchexiters.com for only a little while longer. Barb is now working on the final stages of publishing her dissertation and so anyone interested in her research [...]
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This is the eighth in a series of simulated interviews with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day.
Doug, a strong complementarian will be questioning Paul on his own strong hold today. The [...]
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Posted in 1 Timothy 2, Answering complementarian arguments, Authority and Women, Authority and leadership, Conversation style post, Egalitarian vs complementarian, Misrepresentations, Opposing viewpoints, Prejudice in the church, Spiritual gifts, Women serving in the church on Mar 16th, 2009
This post will be a simulated interview with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day. We are interested in asking Paul his reasons for what he wrote about women and what he [...]
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The picture above represents not only the “bride” of Christ held back and controlled, but women in the “bride” of Christ held back and controlled. It is a great concern to me that there are many in the body who think that authoritarian control is needed to keep people in line and to keep the [...]
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Many people think that God was especially hard on Eve after she was deceived by the serpent in the garden. In fact hierarchists have determined that God was so hard on Eve by punishing her with a multitude of lashes for her sin, that some might get the idea that God punished the one who [...]
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The issue of women in ministry allows us to the opportunity to ask questions about the hard passages of scripture and to work through these passages to discover God’s intended meaning through the inspired context. But in many quarters, questioning is a “sin” that will get a reprimand from a strong authoritarian leader. Is it [...]
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In the beginning God made male and female. Together they were to do God’s work on earth but unfortunately the fall happened and their work done together as equals was challenged by the man who took the sole rule for himself. Society became strongly patriarchal, and men were seen as the only ones who were [...]
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Tradition has flavored a lot of things for us that causes us to see everything in terms of tradition instead of thinking outside the box.
Today I am offering a guest post to Don Johnson who will challenge us to see things without our traditional “glasses”.
How Many Wise Men? by Don Johnson (guest post)
The [...]
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There has been much talk in the last few years about the “feminization” of the church. Books have been written about this “serious” problem and many men are thoroughly disgusted with seeing men outnumbered by women in the church. These men feel that something drastic must be done to bring men back into the church. [...]
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CBMW relates a story told by Anne Graham Lotz in the Washington Post where Mrs Lotz writes:
What legitimate, Biblical role do women have within the church? That question demanded an answer early in my ministry when I accepted an invitation to address a large convention of pastors.
When I stood in the lectern at the convention [...]
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We have been going through 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, the passage that appears to silence women in the church to see how carefully Paul has constructed his words in 1 Corinthians 14:36 to contradict the silencing in verses 34 & 35. (For past articles on this topic, please see the 1 Corinthians 14 section).
Now we come [...]
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