Yesterday I received two polar opposite views of Ephesians 5:22 by email. One was from “NN” who has responded here in the past. He is a complementarian who has commented on authority in marriage, one of a handful of complementarians who have been willing to give their views on women on this blog in a [...]
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The comments on the original post have gone over 400 comments and for some reason the original page is not properly loading just by the link so I will need to find out what the problem is. It does look fine when one goes to http://strivetoenter.com/wim and then scroll down to the March 26, 2010 [...]
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Posted in Adam and headship, Answering complementarian arguments, Authority and Women, Authority and leadership, Egalitarian vs complementarian, Headship/submission, In the beginning - Genesis, Old Testament scriptures, Opposing viewpoints, Prejudice in the church, The fall of man on Mar 21st, 2010
In our continued topic of common objections to women in ministry, we come to the claim that Eve usurped Adam’s authority when she spoke to the serpent. To deal with this claim, we will be looking at both the claim that Eve rebelled against Adam in the garden and the claim that God gave Adam [...]
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According to those who have been followed a trail left by our old friend Neopatriarch (who many of you may recall was the young complementarian who used to post challenges on this blog until he left in exasperation when his arguments didn’t make the grade), he has apparently been presently himself recently on several discussion [...]
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How is it that there are millions of Christians who all look to the same Genesis account yet find themselves with different and contradictory truth claims from the same account? While many conclude that man was designed in a special way that sets him above the woman with special God-given privileges, there are still many [...]
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One of the first objections to women in ministry is the fact that Jesus chose only males as his twelve apostles. If Jesus only chose men for this special “class” of people who were to be His witnesses of the resurrection, then didn’t Jesus show by this act that He does not allow women to [...]
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One of the problems with complementarian definitions is that they aren’t complete enough on the surface to reveal the underlying nature of their hierarchical disposition. However when one pushes to get the answers to some difficult questions, the picture becomes a lot clearer that actually shows the complementarian stand to be male bias in the [...]
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The November 17, 2009 CBMW blog post by John Starke that we started to evaluate last post, is an amazing “piece of work” that exalts the 17th century writings of a Puritan named Richard Baxter who attempts to put women in their place. Starke continues to summarize Baxter’s writings:
2. Discontentment. There is something about the [...]
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Wade Burleson has an interesting post about marital authority and the only time that the Bible uses the word authority in the context of marriage. Burleson writes:
The often quoted book complementarian book Recovering Biblical Manhood & Womanwood (1991), devotes entire chapters to passages like Ephesians 5:21-33, 1 Corinthians 11:3-16. Colossians 3:18-18, and 1 Peter 3:1-7. But [...]
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Was it Adam alone who brought sin into the world? Was it Adam alone who was kicked out of the garden? These are some of the issues about “Adam alone” that have brought some lively discussion on another post at http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2009/11/12/mark-head-as-authority/ and since the comments are now at 446, I am going to move our [...]
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Posted in 1 Timothy 2, Authority and Women, Injustice towards women, News, Opposing viewpoints, Prejudice in the church, Southern Baptists, Spiritual gifts, Women Pastors, Women serving in the church on Nov 17th, 2009
On November 11, 2009 the Georgia Baptist Convention adopted a policy that ended its 148 year relationship with First Baptist Church of Decatur, Georgia. According to the Associated Baptist News,
Pastor Julie Pennington-Russell read a letter at the end of both worship services Nov. 15 from Robert White, executive director of the 1.3 million-member state convention. It [...]
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This post is the second part in a “first” for Women in Ministry blog. I have never before taken the writing of a complementarian and posted it on my blog. However in order to facilitate dialog, I have agreed to post Mark’s articles so that we can have a jolly good discussion/debate with those [...]
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Those who argue for the permanent subordination of women will frequently use the argument that Adam named the animals and that this showed his unique “role” given to him by God.
In a CBMW article written by Bruce Ware, Dr. Ware makes it clear that Adam was given an authority in the beginning of creation that [...]
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Posted in 1 Timothy 2, Answering complementarian arguments, Challenges, Complementarian errors, Debates, Egalitarian vs complementarian, In the beginning - Genesis, Misrepresentations, Opposing viewpoints, The fall of man on Sep 30th, 2009
Neopatriarch has taken a second stab at trying to refute my teaching on 1 Timothy 2:11-15 as he has rewritten his article. Once again he has failed to poke a hole in my argument but this time he has dropped the charge that I am exasperating. Good for Neopatriarch for taking a much kinder tone [...]
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Posted in 1 Corinthians 11, 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 2, 1 Timothy 3, Answering complementarian arguments, Authority and Women, Authority and leadership, Challenges, Debates, Egalitarian vs complementarian, Opposing viewpoints, Women Pastors, Women serving in the church on Sep 19th, 2009
On July 27th, 2009 Mike Seaver and I started a 10 session debate on Women in Ministry where I was able to ask Mike questions on his position, he answered my questions and then we each had one response. Mike is still considering whether he will continue with another 10 sessions where Mike will ask [...]
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Posted in 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 2, Answering complementarian arguments, Authority and Women, Challenges, Complementarian errors, Debates, Egalitarian web sites, Handling Opposition, Injustice towards women, Opposing viewpoints, Prejudice in the church, Reaching out to Complementarians, Southern Baptists, Women Pastors, Women serving in the church on Sep 2nd, 2009
Responses to question #5
In the last blog post Cheryl Schatz posed her fifth set of questions to Mike Seaver regarding their discussion/debate on women in ministry. Links to all the previous questions and responses is at the end of this post. This discussion will be Cheryl’s response to Mike’s answers on question #5 and Mike’s rejoinder. Mike’s [...]
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Posted in 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 2, 1 Timothy 3, Authority and Women, Authority and leadership, Debates, Egalitarian vs complementarian, Injustice towards women, Opposing viewpoints, Prejudice in the church, Spiritual gifts, Women Pastors, Women serving in the church on Aug 26th, 2009
Responses to question #4
In the last blog post Cheryl Schatz posed her 4th set of questions to Mike Seaver regarding their discussion/debate on women in ministry. Links to all the previous questions and responses is at the end of this post. This discussion will be Cheryl’s response to Mike’s answers on question #4 and Mike’s rejoinder.
Cheryl Schatz [...]
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Posted in 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 2, 1 Timothy 3, Authority and Women, Authority and leadership, Challenges, Debates, Egalitarian vs complementarian, Injustice towards women, Opposing viewpoints, Prejudice in the church, Spiritual gifts, Women Pastors, Women serving in the church on Aug 24th, 2009
This is question #4 of a 10 question discussion/debate between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on the issue of women in ministry. The discussion will take the form of five questions posed by Cheryl Schatz with answers by Mike Seaver and then five questions posed by Mike Seaver with answers by Cheryl Schatz. Each question and [...]
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On August 19, 2009 John Piper tackles a question on an abusive husband and Piper’s answer directs women on how they should take abuse from their husbands. The answer is typical of a complementarian who sees the husband as king and priest and the wife as the follower of her priest-king.
My comments will be below the [...]
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Posted in 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 2, 1 Timothy 3, Answering complementarian arguments, Authority and Women, Authority and leadership, Complementarian errors, Debates, Egalitarian vs complementarian, Opposing viewpoints, Questions, Women Pastors, Women serving in the church on Aug 19th, 2009
In the last blog post Cheryl Schatz posed her third set of questions to Mike Seaver regarding their debate on women in ministry. Links to all the previous questions and responses is at the end of this post. This discussion will be Cheryl’s response to Mike’s answers on question #3 and Mike’s rejoinder.
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Cheryl’s response:
Mike, I [...]
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This is question #3 of a 10 question debate between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on the issue of women in ministry. The discussion will take the form of five questions posed by Cheryl Schatz with answers by Mike Seaver and then five questions posed by Mike Seaver with answers by Cheryl Schatz. Each question [...]
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Posted in 1 Corinthians 11, 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 2, 1 Timothy 3, Adam and headship, Authority and Women, Blogs by others, Complementarian errors, Injustice towards women, Man as Priest of the home, Marriage and women in ministry, Opposing viewpoints, Spiritual Abuse, Submission, Women serving in the church on Aug 14th, 2009
On John Piper’s web site is posted a question that someone asked of him about the application of complementarianism that affects women. The question is:
Do you think complementarianism is so important to some people that they deny women more opportunities than the Bible denies them?
I was shocked at John Piper’s response. You really need to [...]
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Posted in 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 2, 1 Timothy 3, Answering complementarian arguments, Authority and Women, Challenges, Debates, Egalitarian vs complementarian, Opposing viewpoints, Women Pastors, Women serving in the church on Jul 29th, 2009
Last post Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz started a discussion/debate on women in ministry. Here is a link to Cheryl’s Question #1 given to Mike. This post will be Cheryl’s response to Mike’s answers and Mike’s response to Cheryl’s response. Mike’s corresponding post on his Role Calling blog is here.
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Cheryl responds to Mike’s answers:
God’s law [...]
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This is the part 6 of answering Wayne Grudem’s “Open letter to Egalitarians” and his “Six Questions That Have Never Been Satisfactorily Answered”. Today I am posting his sixth question, Suzanne McCarthy’s answer and my own questions below that.
Question #6 from Wayne Grudem:
6. Women teaching false doctrine at Ephesus: In 1 Timothy 2:12, where Paul says, “I [...]
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This is the part 5 of answering Wayne Grudem’s “Open letter to Egalitarians” and his “Six Questions That Have Never Been Satisfactorily Answered”. Today I am posting his fifth question, Suzanne McCarthy’s answer from the Greek and my own questions below that. My blog does not yet have the ability for me to use the Greek fonts [...]
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