This blog is for dialogue on the issue of women in ministry and the freedom for women to teach the bible in a public setting. It is also for questions and answers on our DVD entitled “Women in Ministry: Silenced or Set Free?” This 4 DVD set answers the hard passages of scripture that seem to restrict women’s ministry.
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11, Challenges, Guest post, Opposing viewpoints on Nov 12th, 2009
This post is the second part in a “first” for Women in Ministry blog. I have never before taken the writing of a complementarian and posted it on my blog. However in order to facilitate dialog, I have agreed to post Mark’s articles so that we can have a jolly good discussion/debate with those [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11 on Nov 10th, 2009
This post is a first. I have never before taken the writing of a complementarian and posted it on my blog. However in order to facilitate dialog, I have agreed to post Mark’s article so that we can have a jolly good discussion/debate with those who care to participate on the issue of what [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11, Adam and headship, Authority and Women, Complementarian errors, Ephesians 5, Headship/submission, In the beginning - Genesis, Spiritual gifts on Oct 27th, 2009
Does a woman need a spiritual “covering”?
Submission and authority are a big issue in the church today. Closely tied into the issue of authority is the teaching that women need a spiritual “covering”. Men, we are told, are to be the spiritual “covering” to provide protection and to allow the man to have the accountability. [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11, 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 2, 1 Timothy 3, Answering complementarian arguments, Authority and Women, Challenges, Debates, Egalitarian vs complementarian, In the beginning - Genesis, Spiritual gifts, The curse, The fall of man on Oct 16th, 2009
I am creating a new post to continue the great discussion that we have been having on a previous post while I am out of the country. The original discussion is on this post http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2009/07/05/wayne-grudem-part-2/ and since we have grown to over 240 comments, I would ask that we continue our discussions with Mark the complementarian [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11, 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 2, 1 Timothy 3, Answering complementarian arguments, Authority and Women, Authority and leadership, Challenges, Debates, Egalitarian vs complementarian, Opposing viewpoints, Women Pastors, Women serving in the church on Sep 19th, 2009
On July 27th, 2009 Mike Seaver and I started a 10 session debate on Women in Ministry where I was able to ask Mike questions on his position, he answered my questions and then we each had one response. Mike is still considering whether he will continue with another 10 sessions where Mike will ask [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11, 1 Corinthians 14, Answering complementarian arguments, Authority and Women, Challenges, Complementarian errors, Debates, Egalitarian vs complementarian, Women Pastors, Women serving in the church on Aug 31st, 2009
This is question #5 of a 10 question discussion/debate between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on the issue of women in ministry. The discussion will take the form of five questions posed by Cheryl Schatz with answers by Mike Seaver and then five questions posed by Mike Seaver with answers by Cheryl Schatz. Each question and answer [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11, 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 2, 1 Timothy 3, Adam and headship, Authority and Women, Blogs by others, Complementarian errors, Injustice towards women, Man as Priest of the home, Marriage and women in ministry, Opposing viewpoints, Spiritual Abuse, Submission, Women serving in the church on Aug 14th, 2009
On John Piper’s web site is posted a question that someone asked of him about the application of complementarianism that affects women. The question is:
Do you think complementarianism is so important to some people that they deny women more opportunities than the Bible denies them?
I was shocked at John Piper’s response. You really need to [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11, 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 2, 1 Timothy 3, Blogs by others, Conferences, Women Pastors, Women serving in the church on Aug 13th, 2009
I have been invited by Pastor Dave Woolcott to participate in a new blog conference on women’s eldership in the church put on by the Ryde Presbyterian Church in Ryde, Sidney, Australia. The blog address for the conference set for September 1 - 15, 2009 is http://www.achurchinryde.com/blog/ The blog is on line now and active and [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11, Answering complementarian arguments, Challenges, Complementarian errors, Egalitarian vs complementarian, Headship/submission, Opposing viewpoints on Jul 4th, 2009
In 1998 Wayne Grudem wrote “An Open Letter to Egalitarians” and in the letter he gave six questions that he said have never been satisfactorily answered.
This is the first in a six part set of posts addressing Mr. Grudem’s questions.
First of all I will reprint the “Open Letter” that is found on Mike Seaver’s Role [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11, 1 Corinthians 14, Opposing viewpoints, Prejudice in the church on Sep 21st, 2008
Many people have a big problem with Paul because they think that he was sexist. I would like to change that point of view by looking carefully at the text so that we can fully appreciate Paul for who he was, not the false impression that we have of Paul. Under God’s inspiration Paul refuted [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11, Authority and Women, Headship/submission, Man as Priest of the home on Sep 5th, 2008
While Paul said that the husband is the head of the wife (1 Cor. 11:3) with this metaphor implying that the wife is the body of the husband, scripture also tells us that Jesus is the head of the body of Christ and the believing wife is part of that body too. This means that [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11, In the beginning - Genesis, The fall of man on Aug 25th, 2008
We have been looking at Jesus’ words in John 8:44 which says that there is no truth in satan. We are comparing this to satan’s words through the serpent in Genesis 3:5 and God’s words in Genesis 3:22
Genesis 3:5 “For God knows that in the day that you eat from it your eyes will be [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11, 1 Timothy 2, Adam and headship, Answering complementarian arguments, Egalitarian vs complementarian, In the beginning - Genesis on Jun 16th, 2008
In this fourth part of my response to Matt Slick’s article called “Genesis 2, Adam and Eve, and Authority”, I am going to deal directly with Matt’s comments regarding authority and created order. Matt writes:
Still, the egalitarians will object and say that an absolute and total equality in all things exists between men and [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11, 1 Timothy 2, Answering complementarian arguments, Authority and Women, Debates, Egalitarian vs complementarian on May 17th, 2008
This post is an answer to Matt Slicks article called “1 Timothy 2:9-15 “a woman” is representative of all women as “a man”represents all men”.
Matt has been trying to answer my arguments on 1 Timothy 2:111-15 and his article is an attempt at trying to prove that the Greek”gune” or “woman/wife” represents all women.
Matt says:
“As [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11 on Aug 3rd, 2007
Continuing on with our verse by verse discussion through the section of 1 Corinthians 11 about women, we come to verse 13:
1Co 11:13 Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?
Paul is asking the Corinthians now to make a judgment call regarding the evidence that [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11 on Jul 28th, 2007
In our verse by verse through 1 Corinthians 11, we now come to verse 11:
1 Corinthians 11:11 However, in the Lord, neither is woman independent of man, nor is man independent of woman.
Paul once again breaks with tradition. Paul gives the woman the right to make her own decision in verse 10 about what she [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11 on Jul 21st, 2007
Continuing our verse by verse through 1 Corinthians 11, we come to verse 6:
For if a woman does not cover her head, let her also have her hair cut off; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head.
We have already [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11 on Jul 12th, 2007
Several posts back we talked about how Paul shows in 1 Corinthians 11 that the head covering shamed Christ. This post will discuss why a woman without her head covering shamed her head. Let’s start again with 1 Corinthians 11:4, 5 -
Every man who has something on his head while praying or prophesying disgraces his [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11 on Jul 4th, 2007
In the last post we discussed that the man is the image and glory of God and Christ is his head. Why does Paul emphasize that the man is the image and glory of God but he says nothing about the woman having God’s glory? It is because Paul is working on a contrast [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11 on Jul 1st, 2007
Last post we discussed how the head covering shamed Christ. Before we carry on with 1 Corinthians 11:5 in our verse by verse discussion, I want to skip over to verse 7 to discuss the second reason that a man is not to have his head covered and this has to do with honoring his [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11 on Jun 17th, 2007
1 Corinthians 11:4-6 lists three “shames” and verse 7 lists two glories. Two of these shames and glories relate directly back to the “head” and one shame relates to the person themselves. Let’s find out about the contrasting “shames” and “glories” because they are vital to understanding this difficult passage.
1 Corinthians 11:4 says:
“Every man [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11, Headship/submission on May 30th, 2007
Before we continue with our verse by verse discussion through 1 Corinthians 11, I wanted to add a note about what some consider to be the universal role of male headship. In universal male headship the male is the head over every woman. Recently I got an email from a male apologist named [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11 on May 27th, 2007
In the last post I summarized the foundational points from chapter 10 that is necessary to the understanding of chapter 11. If you haven’t read it already, it can be read by clicking here. In this post I will continue our verse by verse discussion from 1 Corinthians 11:3. I will be [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11 on May 26th, 2007
Because I have received several questions posed to me on 1 Corinthians 11, I think it best that we go through the passage verse by verse and that should help deal with each question in context. As we go through each set of verses, please feel free to comment or ask questions on the section [...]
Posted in 1 Corinthians 11, Authority and Women on May 23rd, 2007
One question that was posed to me last week was on 1 Corinthians 11:9 regarding the creation of woman for the man. Does this mean that the woman is somehow inferior to the man because she was created for him? Let’s have a close look at the passage starting with verse 7 of [...]
Women In Ministry
This blog is for dialogue on the issue of women in ministry and the freedom for women to teach the bible in a public setting. It is also for questions and answers on our DVD entitled “Women in Ministry: Silenced or Set Free?” This 4 DVD set answers the hard passages of scripture that seem to restrict women’s ministry.
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