Comments on: At the first Christmas, God was pleased to come through a woman

By: Kay

Kay — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:52:53 +0000

Jewel,
I don’t think you really have a problem with Christianity, but with those who choose to interpret His Word for their own faulty biased reasons.
If “authorities”, are not in fact really in authority but under THE Authority of God just like those under them, this levels the playing field and equalizes all the parties being addressed. And if everyone is addressed equally as a person in Christ, ultimately is no hierarchy among them.
The only distinctions would be those perceived by someone’s interpretation.
“There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” according to Gal.3:28.

I hope you continue to read Cheryl’s blog.

By: Kay

Kay — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:44:54 +0000

“All right, already!

Somebody say something!

It’s hard to lurk here when you all are so quite!”

Mara,
I know what you mean! Haven’t had time to comment myself - husband had a minor surgery right before Christmas, throw in traveling and then my son-in-law’s father died suddenly two days after Christmas…it’s “been”

By: Alison

Alison — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 02:21:30 +0000

Jewel,

Pinklight is very right. Spend some time engaging the Scriptures, and you will be surprised. I know I was, and I grew up in an egalitarian church! But when I engaged Holy Writ for myself (when I was struggling with the complementarian issues others were raising), I saw it for myself, and thank God I did. You’re in a good place here.

By: pinklight

pinklight — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:55:35 +0000

Jewel,

You’d be surprised what the scriptures really reveal (like I have been)

By: Cheryl Schatz

Cheryl Schatz — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:17:10 +0000

Jewel,
Welcome to my blog! Thanks for your comments.

Mara,
It ’tis the season for quietness. I am still away on vacation and will be back sometime in the new year. It is a rare quiet place right now

By: Jewel

Jewel — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:23:05 +0000

Thank you for this article. I always thought Christianity was sexist and turned away from it, this article inspired me to not think that way.

By: Mara

Mara — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:04:09 +0000

All right, already!

Somebody say something!

It’s hard to lurk here when you all are so quite!

By: Kathleen

Kathleen — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:39:15 +0000

Thank you for this encouragement. Tears were welling up in my eyes as I remembered all the times where my so-called church family also rejected and marginialized me for my insights in these things (essentially, my gifting in the Body). This reaffirms my need to press on in God’s truth of His Word, unswerved by the teachings of fleshly-minded humans and listening to God’s Spirit guide me into His truth.

Merry Christmas!

By: Hannah Thomas

Hannah Thomas — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:13:08 +0000

Waneta Dawn brought up a good point in one of her recent articles. They speak alot about how the serpent overruled the order that God placed on humans - man was created first, etc - and the serpent basically started the gender role confusion at that point.

Why would God endorse this confusion by going to Mary first to inform her of the upcoming birth? I mean wouldn’t he first wish to go to her ‘authority’ and ‘leader’ to clue him in first? Why would he do this once again at the tomb of Jesus, and appear to women and tell them to go and share the good news?

Are they assuming that God knew this confusion would always be in place, and just what went with it at that point? He figured these important times in our faith’s history needed to break his rules of order, because since we are so screwed up we couldn’t handle it
‘his way’ or something?

Remember the serpent ‘made her the spokesman and the moral guardian because that is exactly what should not have been done’ according to what they teach.

By: Cheryl Schatz

Cheryl Schatz — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:34:23 +0000

gengwall,
Have a great Christmas! We are also getting away for some family time, but we chose to go TO the cold instead of away from it. What were we thinking??

By: gengwall

gengwall — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:21:39 +0000

This seems like an appropriate post to say “have a blessed Christmas everyone.”

We will be in Nashville over the holidays and I don’t know how often I will take time away from all the family fun to stop in here. So if you don’t hear from me, have no fear - I am just escaping the MN cold and blogosphere stress for a couple of weeks.

By: Cheryl Schatz

Cheryl Schatz — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:27:54 +0000

SD,

Welcome to my blog! Thanks for your comments. It is always good to encourage one another to pray. I write about this on my blog especially when a complementarian has challenged us and then leaves without answering any questions. I ask people to pray for them because I know that they have read things that have peaked their interest and that a seed has been planted. They are not the enemy. We are not to see other Christians as enemies. And because they are brothers and sisters in Christ, we can and should pray for them. And we can and should pray for each other that the pain that many have had because they have been abused and silenced and stopped from using their gifts, will be healed by our precious Lord and Savior.

I hope you feel free to stick around and read many of the articles here as they should help a lot regarding the egalitarian position.

By: SD

SD — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:20:44 +0000

This might be off-topic, but I thought that it is important that people pray that God will bring about change on these issues in people’s hearts… The change that we want we need to ask God for (provided He put it on our hearts). I think it is important for people to get together with those who feel/think the same way and that they start praying together about all these things (all the “women/ministry” and other issues). It is only when people spend real time in (dare I say serious?) prayer before God (together and as individuals) that any worthwhile change will come. I think the time for prayer is here. That is just what I felt to say. Prayer (alongside the Word) needs to be the basis for our actions - I mean, don’t do something unless you have not prayed about it. But in any way get together with others who are like-minded on a regular basis and pray on these things whatever God put on your heart(s).

By: Cheryl Schatz

Cheryl Schatz — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:04:11 +0000

Kay,
I supposed that the first and the last may be the same, but then that would have been much plainer if Jesus had said that the first and last will be same. While all will be saved, there does appear to be different rewards and some who think they will have a greater place (greater reward) may be surprised that their ego was too inflated down here.

As far as MacArthur, he truly believes that the male is to rule the female and that pattern supercedes marriage in heaven so that all females will be under all males. That interpretation kind of tells you where his heart is here on this earth

By: Kay

Kay — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:32:31 +0000

“The Bible says that the first will be last and the last will be first. Will those who placed themselves as “first” and “foremost” here on this earth find themselves in a lesser position of honor in heaven? I really don’t know. But I wonder about it.”
Cheryl,
I understand that to mean that in the Kingdom of God there will be no first and last - that God does as He pleases with each one. (Matt. 20)

As for MacArthur, how in the world does he get around Matt. 22: “Jesus answered them, “How wrong you are! It is because you don’t know the Scriptures or God’s power. For when the dead rise to life, they will be like the angels in heaven and will not marry.”??