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	<title>Comments on: Public statement regarding Cheryl Schatz&#8217;s Matthew 18 meeting with Matt Slick</title>
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	<description>This blog is for dialogue on the issue of women in ministry and the freedom for women to teach the bible in a public setting.  It is also for questions and answers on our DVD entitled "Women in Ministry: Silenced or Set Free?"  This 4 DVD set answers the hard passages of scripture that seem to restrict women's ministry.</description>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Schatz</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2008/09/06/public-statement-regarding-matt-slick/comment-page-1/#comment-4395</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl Schatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RDA,  Thank you for your thoughts, and welcome to WIM!  

Since the conflict has been public from the beginning, and not from my doing, and the conflict is in the public record, I believe it is an honorable thing to publicly bring this to a close.  It is also worthwhile to advise that any ongoing dispute will not be responded to and the reasons why I am taking this position is important so that there is a valid reason for not wanting the debate to carry on, here on my blog.  That is the only thing that is in my control.

Blessings,
Cheryl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RDA,  Thank you for your thoughts, and welcome to WIM!  </p>
<p>Since the conflict has been public from the beginning, and not from my doing, and the conflict is in the public record, I believe it is an honorable thing to publicly bring this to a close.  It is also worthwhile to advise that any ongoing dispute will not be responded to and the reasons why I am taking this position is important so that there is a valid reason for not wanting the debate to carry on, here on my blog.  That is the only thing that is in my control.</p>
<p>Blessings,<br />
Cheryl</p>
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		<title>By: RDA</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2008/09/06/public-statement-regarding-matt-slick/comment-page-1/#comment-4394</link>
		<dc:creator>RDA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might I suggest that whenever there is a conflict between two people, it is best not to publish it.  From what I can see both parties have been wounded by this set of events.

But someone has to have the courage to stop and end all further "revelation" of what has occurred or is occurring.  I know you have committed to doing so, but don't you think the wise course of action would be to remove all publications (blogs, etc.) that point people to the issue?

It does not matter what the other party has done.  We are called to follow Christ in his life and death.  The cross is the example for our lives.  It ends all warfare.

Whether we are right or wrong is not as relevant as whether our life is cruciform - modeled on that of the savior's.  My recommendation is that you love your enemy, heap coals of fire upon his head, and do good to those who despitefully use you.

It is just a suggestion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might I suggest that whenever there is a conflict between two people, it is best not to publish it.  From what I can see both parties have been wounded by this set of events.</p>
<p>But someone has to have the courage to stop and end all further &#8220;revelation&#8221; of what has occurred or is occurring.  I know you have committed to doing so, but don&#8217;t you think the wise course of action would be to remove all publications (blogs, etc.) that point people to the issue?</p>
<p>It does not matter what the other party has done.  We are called to follow Christ in his life and death.  The cross is the example for our lives.  It ends all warfare.</p>
<p>Whether we are right or wrong is not as relevant as whether our life is cruciform - modeled on that of the savior&#8217;s.  My recommendation is that you love your enemy, heap coals of fire upon his head, and do good to those who despitefully use you.</p>
<p>It is just a suggestion.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Schatz</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2008/09/06/public-statement-regarding-matt-slick/comment-page-1/#comment-4322</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl Schatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ingrid,

Thank you so much for your encouragement!  Welcome to this blog and this community and I am SO glad that you have been receiving much help from the articles and from my DVD.

I am also glad that you have been helped enough to want to share this message with other men and women.  Wonderful!!

God bless,
Cheryl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ingrid,</p>
<p>Thank you so much for your encouragement!  Welcome to this blog and this community and I am SO glad that you have been receiving much help from the articles and from my DVD.</p>
<p>I am also glad that you have been helped enough to want to share this message with other men and women.  Wonderful!!</p>
<p>God bless,<br />
Cheryl</p>
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		<title>By: Ingrid Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ingrid Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to encourage you, dear sister in the Lord, and I am glad that you will not be deterred in continuing with this important work. The Lord has clearly gifted you to dig deep into the Scriptures and is using you, albeit at a price, to set many of us women free to serve HIM. I was not one to think that the women’s issue was a big deal until I watched your DVD. I then asked a learned Christian man to refute your interpretation of the key passages you site, by using Scripture. His reply was that it was more important to uphold this ‘Christian’ position. No refuting with Scripture! It seemed to me that a tradition was more important than the word of God! I see now also the subtle ways in which women are held back in the church, but I am truly set free. I am more in awe of my God than ever now and I feel His love more personal. He does desire from me as much as from a man! Thank you Jesus. 
I have since read every post and comments on your blog. I have read my Bible and have looked up the Greek and Hebrew words. How wonderful it has been to drink deeper from His Word. Thank you so much for the priceless jewels you are digging up for us, dear Cheryl. 
God bless you, Cheryl, and give you strength to continue this fight. Many of us (mature men and women) are cheering for you!
I am sharing this information with as many men and women that are willing to listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to encourage you, dear sister in the Lord, and I am glad that you will not be deterred in continuing with this important work. The Lord has clearly gifted you to dig deep into the Scriptures and is using you, albeit at a price, to set many of us women free to serve HIM. I was not one to think that the women’s issue was a big deal until I watched your DVD. I then asked a learned Christian man to refute your interpretation of the key passages you site, by using Scripture. His reply was that it was more important to uphold this ‘Christian’ position. No refuting with Scripture! It seemed to me that a tradition was more important than the word of God! I see now also the subtle ways in which women are held back in the church, but I am truly set free. I am more in awe of my God than ever now and I feel His love more personal. He does desire from me as much as from a man! Thank you Jesus.<br />
I have since read every post and comments on your blog. I have read my Bible and have looked up the Greek and Hebrew words. How wonderful it has been to drink deeper from His Word. Thank you so much for the priceless jewels you are digging up for us, dear Cheryl.<br />
God bless you, Cheryl, and give you strength to continue this fight. Many of us (mature men and women) are cheering for you!<br />
I am sharing this information with as many men and women that are willing to listen.</p>
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		<title>By: tiro</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2008/09/06/public-statement-regarding-matt-slick/comment-page-1/#comment-4320</link>
		<dc:creator>tiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone that wants to start a discussion of this situation and the audio files, can do so at &lt;a href="http://equalitycentral.com/forum/index.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://equalitycentral.com/forum/index.php&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone that wants to start a discussion of this situation and the audio files, can do so at <a href="http://equalitycentral.com/forum/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://equalitycentral.com/forum/index.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Schatz</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2008/09/06/public-statement-regarding-matt-slick/comment-page-1/#comment-4319</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl Schatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you tiro!  I will allow links so that people can discuss amongst themselves off site.  So if anyone would like to post a link here to where a discussion has been started elsewhere, I am perfectly fine with that.  I am not trying to stifle conversation and interaction on this issue at all.  I just don't want it on my blog so that I can keep within my agreement.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you tiro!  I will allow links so that people can discuss amongst themselves off site.  So if anyone would like to post a link here to where a discussion has been started elsewhere, I am perfectly fine with that.  I am not trying to stifle conversation and interaction on this issue at all.  I just don&#8217;t want it on my blog so that I can keep within my agreement.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: tiro</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2008/09/06/public-statement-regarding-matt-slick/comment-page-1/#comment-4318</link>
		<dc:creator>tiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because you have agreed not to publicly discuss these offenses anymore, I don\'t want to write my opinion of it here, and to encourage others not to do so also, so that Cheryl can keep her end of the agreement if though Matt and his VP are not keeping it.  There are other places one can discuss it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because you have agreed not to publicly discuss these offenses anymore, I don\&#8217;t want to write my opinion of it here, and to encourage others not to do so also, so that Cheryl can keep her end of the agreement if though Matt and his VP are not keeping it.  There are other places one can discuss it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Schatz</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2008/09/06/public-statement-regarding-matt-slick/comment-page-1/#comment-4308</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl Schatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 09:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have added this tonight to my post above as well as to the statement on www.mmoutreach.org/slick.htm :

**Since CARM is completely under Matt Slick's control as he is the President of CARM, any attacks continued through CARM in the person of Diane Sellner lay at the feet of Matt Slick, her boss.  Matt Slick also informed us in the meeting that Diane Sellner purchased three web site names as cherylschatz dot whatever (with different endings). The purchase of my name was to mock and defame my name.  If Matt Slick allows the attacks to continue on whether on CARM or through my name on web sites that he has complete knowledge of through people that are employed with CARM and who are under his authority and direction, then God will now have to be the judge between us and the public will also be in the position to judge.**

Cindy, I really appreciate your words to me.  These are words from God and are the very same words that I was reading tonight.  When the wall of Jerusalem was being rebuilt, God's enemies tried everything they could to stop the work from mocking to blackmail and threats of attack.  There was even an attempt to call Nehemiah away from the work of rebuilding the wall in order to stop him from his call from God.  My work on the very important topic of the Trinity will not be stopped.  The Trinity has been under attack from both outside and inside the church.  

Just as Nehemiah gave each man an area to protect the breach in the wall and to rebuilt the wall, so We have been given one area of the breach in this theological wall to protect.  The work will not be stopped.  I will not step aside to protect my name from those who would like to do harm to one in the body of Christ.  The work must continue unhindered.  We are not unaware of the schemes of Satan.  We see the schemes and we do our work protecting the wall as we work.  God is orchestrating the work and he will repay as vengeance belongs to God alone.  Those who live in vengeance will suffer harm just as those who live by the sword will die by the sword.  God is our defender and his help is more than enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have added this tonight to my post above as well as to the statement on <a href="http://www.mmoutreach.org/slick.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mmoutreach.org/slick.htm</a> :</p>
<p>**Since CARM is completely under Matt Slick&#8217;s control as he is the President of CARM, any attacks continued through CARM in the person of Diane Sellner lay at the feet of Matt Slick, her boss.  Matt Slick also informed us in the meeting that Diane Sellner purchased three web site names as cherylschatz dot whatever (with different endings). The purchase of my name was to mock and defame my name.  If Matt Slick allows the attacks to continue on whether on CARM or through my name on web sites that he has complete knowledge of through people that are employed with CARM and who are under his authority and direction, then God will now have to be the judge between us and the public will also be in the position to judge.**</p>
<p>Cindy, I really appreciate your words to me.  These are words from God and are the very same words that I was reading tonight.  When the wall of Jerusalem was being rebuilt, God&#8217;s enemies tried everything they could to stop the work from mocking to blackmail and threats of attack.  There was even an attempt to call Nehemiah away from the work of rebuilding the wall in order to stop him from his call from God.  My work on the very important topic of the Trinity will not be stopped.  The Trinity has been under attack from both outside and inside the church.  </p>
<p>Just as Nehemiah gave each man an area to protect the breach in the wall and to rebuilt the wall, so We have been given one area of the breach in this theological wall to protect.  The work will not be stopped.  I will not step aside to protect my name from those who would like to do harm to one in the body of Christ.  The work must continue unhindered.  We are not unaware of the schemes of Satan.  We see the schemes and we do our work protecting the wall as we work.  God is orchestrating the work and he will repay as vengeance belongs to God alone.  Those who live in vengeance will suffer harm just as those who live by the sword will die by the sword.  God is our defender and his help is more than enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy K</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2008/09/06/public-statement-regarding-matt-slick/comment-page-1/#comment-4307</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 06:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be at peace for making the great effort that you did to live peaceably with all, despite the outcome.   And my God continue to bring us into the unity of the faith (not static uniformity under the law) through the love of God in Christ Jesus.  May the Lord have his way with all of us.

Matthew 27:12:
&lt;em&gt;And when he was accused of the chief priests and elders, he answered nothing.&lt;/em&gt;

Proverbs 26:4-5

Hezekiah's men did not answer the blasphemies of Rab-shakeh (II Kings 18:36)

Nehemiah's response to Sanballat (Nehemiah 6:8)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be at peace for making the great effort that you did to live peaceably with all, despite the outcome.   And my God continue to bring us into the unity of the faith (not static uniformity under the law) through the love of God in Christ Jesus.  May the Lord have his way with all of us.</p>
<p>Matthew 27:12:<br />
<em>And when he was accused of the chief priests and elders, he answered nothing.</em></p>
<p>Proverbs 26:4-5</p>
<p>Hezekiah&#8217;s men did not answer the blasphemies of Rab-shakeh (II Kings 18:36)</p>
<p>Nehemiah&#8217;s response to Sanballat (Nehemiah 6:8)</p>
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		<title>By: tiro</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2008/09/06/public-statement-regarding-matt-slick/comment-page-1/#comment-4298</link>
		<dc:creator>tiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said.  Thank you for the closure.  I'm ready to move on with you.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said.  Thank you for the closure.  I&#8217;m ready to move on with you.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Schatz</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2008/09/06/public-statement-regarding-matt-slick/comment-page-1/#comment-4297</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl Schatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just a public thank you to everyone who prayed for me as I tried my best to confront a brother in love for his offenses against me.  I believe that in the end God will somehow bring some good out of what I went through because this is the kind of God we serve.  All things work out for good to those who love God and are called according to his purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just a public thank you to everyone who prayed for me as I tried my best to confront a brother in love for his offenses against me.  I believe that in the end God will somehow bring some good out of what I went through because this is the kind of God we serve.  All things work out for good to those who love God and are called according to his purpose.</p>
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