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	<description>This blog is for dialogue on the issue of women in ministry and the freedom for women to teach the bible in a public setting.  It is also for questions and answers on our DVD entitled "Women in Ministry: Silenced or Set Free?"  This 4 DVD set answers the hard passages of scripture that seem to restrict women's ministry.</description>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Schatz</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2008/06/21/taking-a-break-2/#comment-3709</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl Schatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well as many of you know, I am BACK! It was a good break away but not too restful.  I am feeling quite overwhelmed at all the emails I have to answer and posts that have been pointed out to me to look at on other blogs so I may take a bit to give an answer to those who posted here.  Thanks for your patience!

Tiro #12
 I am not familiar with that particular ministry at all.

Lin,
The Denny Burk post was one of the longest I have ever read. I am surprised that he has given free reign to those who are egalitarians without seeming to restrict what they said.  Interesting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well as many of you know, I am BACK! It was a good break away but not too restful.  I am feeling quite overwhelmed at all the emails I have to answer and posts that have been pointed out to me to look at on other blogs so I may take a bit to give an answer to those who posted here.  Thanks for your patience!</p>
<p>Tiro #12<br />
 I am not familiar with that particular ministry at all.</p>
<p>Lin,<br />
The Denny Burk post was one of the longest I have ever read. I am surprised that he has given free reign to those who are egalitarians without seeming to restrict what they said.  Interesting!</p>
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		<title>By: Lin</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2008/06/21/taking-a-break-2/#comment-3704</link>
		<dc:creator>Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know a few of you are reading and commenting on this very long comment thread about Bruce Ware's recenct teaching here:http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=2162#comment-39315

I want to make an observation about the comments. It has been enlightening to see the egals mostly as the ones not only quoting scripture but including Greek and Hebrew, different translations, etc. They are the deep diggers into the word. Whereas, most of the comps are quoting CBMW or other mere humans! That should tell us something very important.

It has struck me again and again how this whole issue is so man centered and NOT Christ centered. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know a few of you are reading and commenting on this very long comment thread about Bruce Ware&#8217;s recenct teaching here:http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=2162#comment-39315</p>
<p>I want to make an observation about the comments. It has been enlightening to see the egals mostly as the ones not only quoting scripture but including Greek and Hebrew, different translations, etc. They are the deep diggers into the word. Whereas, most of the comps are quoting CBMW or other mere humans! That should tell us something very important.</p>
<p>It has struck me again and again how this whole issue is so man centered and NOT Christ centered.</p>
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		<title>By: tiro</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2008/06/21/taking-a-break-2/#comment-3701</link>
		<dc:creator>tiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to change the subject.....


but has anyone ever heard of the prophetic ministry of Clint Glenny of Word of Grace echurch ministries.  Has supposedly been ministering to leaders around the world for 25 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to change the subject&#8230;..</p>
<p>but has anyone ever heard of the prophetic ministry of Clint Glenny of Word of Grace echurch ministries.  Has supposedly been ministering to leaders around the world for 25 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Johnson</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2008/06/21/taking-a-break-2/#comment-3700</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are welcome, I am glad to be a man speaking for Biblical equality.  In one forum some even wondered if I might actually be "Dawn" masquerading as a man, I took it as a supreme compliment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are welcome, I am glad to be a man speaking for Biblical equality.  In one forum some even wondered if I might actually be &#8220;Dawn&#8221; masquerading as a man, I took it as a supreme compliment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don,

Thanks very much for your support on Denny's blog and thanks to Ruud for pointing it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don,</p>
<p>Thanks very much for your support on Denny&#8217;s blog and thanks to Ruud for pointing it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Johnson</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2008/06/21/taking-a-break-2/#comment-3698</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are 2 ways to interpret 1 Tim 2:15 in some strange way to be saved and in the normal way.  I interpret it in the normal way and think Paul is using Ephesian terms in a Christian way to show it can be done.  That is, the childbearing refers to Jesus being savior, the definite article is there in the Greek and for me indicates a special childbearring, the most special one ever.

That is, he just kicked out 2 teachers, which would rock them and perhaps lead them to stay WELL AWAY from what they taught, even going too far in the other direction.  Imagine this happening today, a missionary church planter finds out what is going on and kicks out 2 leaders of a local church. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are 2 ways to interpret 1 Tim 2:15 in some strange way to be saved and in the normal way.  I interpret it in the normal way and think Paul is using Ephesian terms in a Christian way to show it can be done.  That is, the childbearing refers to Jesus being savior, the definite article is there in the Greek and for me indicates a special childbearring, the most special one ever.</p>
<p>That is, he just kicked out 2 teachers, which would rock them and perhaps lead them to stay WELL AWAY from what they taught, even going too far in the other direction.  Imagine this happening today, a missionary church planter finds out what is going on and kicks out 2 leaders of a local church. </p>
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		<title>By: Cindy K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He also says in that sermon that all references to "saved" in the NT are eternal salvation, so I Timothy 2:15 are some kind of proof that women who are saved (generally) through their submissive act of childbirth.

And I was only joking when I said that a few weeks ago on another thread!  (That they would replace Eph 3:8-9 and Jn 3:16 with I Tim 2:15 for women only.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He also says in that sermon that all references to &#8220;saved&#8221; in the NT are eternal salvation, so I Timothy 2:15 are some kind of proof that women who are saved (generally) through their submissive act of childbirth.</p>
<p>And I was only joking when I said that a few weeks ago on another thread!  (That they would replace Eph 3:8-9 and Jn 3:16 with I Tim 2:15 for women only.)</p>
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		<title>By: tiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruud pointed this out for us on the Equality Forums.

http://powerscourt.blogspot.com/2008/06/cause-of-abuse.html

Suzanne’s Bookshelf is commenting on a recent sermon by Bruce Ware that is phenomenal on its blame towards women for marriage failures and even for the abuse they suffer at the hands of their husbands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruud pointed this out for us on the Equality Forums.</p>
<p><a href="http://powerscourt.blogspot.com/2008/06/cause-of-abuse.html" rel="nofollow">http://powerscourt.blogspot.com/2008/06/cause-of-abuse.html</a></p>
<p>Suzanne’s Bookshelf is commenting on a recent sermon by Bruce Ware that is phenomenal on its blame towards women for marriage failures and even for the abuse they suffer at the hands of their husbands.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Johnson</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2008/06/21/taking-a-break-2/#comment-3676</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You deserve a break, so I am glad to hear you are taking one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You deserve a break, so I am glad to hear you are taking one.</p>
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		<title>By: Lin</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2008/06/21/taking-a-break-2/#comment-3671</link>
		<dc:creator>Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not know about anyone else but I am noticing a trend when I listen to sermons or read articles from many well known Theologians and pastors on the internet: They mention Jesus less and less. I hear lots of references to God but fewer to Jesus. This is a great concern of mine.

I am looking forward to your DVD. It is sorely needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know about anyone else but I am noticing a trend when I listen to sermons or read articles from many well known Theologians and pastors on the internet: They mention Jesus less and less. I hear lots of references to God but fewer to Jesus. This is a great concern of mine.</p>
<p>I am looking forward to your DVD. It is sorely needed.</p>
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