Comments on: Are God’s gifts segregated?

By: Cheryl

Cheryl — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 06:46:46 +0000

Don,

You are right in that scriptures do not forbid a couple from choosing what works the best for their marriage and their home.

By: Don Johnson

Don Johnson — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:58:17 +0000

I do not think such courses should be segregated. The man being a househusband while the wife works is a valid choice for some couples. Even if the wife is a housewife, there can be times when the husband needs to take the role of househusband, it is certainly wrong to think that such is forbidden, that can be crippling.

By: Cheryl

Cheryl — Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:17:51 +0000

Thanks Don for the link! I am thinking of doing an article about colleges/seminaries who offer homemaking courses. Boy do I have thoughts about this!

By: Cheryl

Cheryl — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:44:30 +0000

Thank you Pastor Paul!

By: Paul Burleson

Paul Burleson — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:15:16 +0000

Cheryl,

EXCELLENT.

By: Don Johnson

Don Johnson — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:51:11 +0000

Here is a college that thinks the gifts are segregated, they do not allow men to minor in homemaking!

http://www.parentdish.com/2007/08/24/get-college-credit-for-loading-the-dishwasher-but-only-if-your/

The article is incorrect in claiming that “evangelicals think X”, as pointed out by a comment.

By: Don Johnson

Don Johnson — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:34:47 +0000

As Jesus said, a Christian leader does not do this, rather they lead by example.

By: Justa Berean

Justa Berean — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:09:10 +0000

Greg, that is really good insight. Got me to thinking.

I suspect that there is much more bully mentality in group hierarchalists (those who elevate one group of any sort over another)than I’ve been aware of in the past. One thing a bully does is control by fear. Most people will reward a desired action. But the bully mentality goes further and aggressively chastises the unwanted activity and seeks to disallow thinking for oneself. A bully demands compliance in a strong coersive manner.

All of this is done by the leaders and active proponents of gender hierarchy, some more than others.

By: Cheryl

Cheryl — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 01:27:19 +0000

Thanks Greg for those insights! Fear is certainly one of the reasons why people say nothing concerning this tradition.

By: Greg Anderson

Greg Anderson — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:37:16 +0000

Cheryl and Don, It’s fallen human nature that craves power. The early church of the apostles got hi-jacked by an hierarchical establishment that was interested only in consolidating that power. In the centuries that followed, the organized church caused untold misery and human suffering. The Renaissance offered a brief flurry of human freedom but was soon overshadowed by the bad elements of the Age of Reason. So what’s the point of the history lesson you ask? Simply this. Even the protestant reformation preserved an enforced male hierarchy. Both Luther and Calvin took a dim view of women and were unabashed in writing so. Nowadays, organizations such as the CBMW have toned down the language a bit with assertions that women are “equal in personhood” but separate in “role and function”. I too have listened to their audio materials. You can hear the audiences giggle, nod their heads in total rapt agreement and not once dare to disagree with their leadership or think for themselves. To do so risks censure and accusations of heresy. I think a great deal of it is fear driven, fear of going against the Bible and the apparent strictures of St. Paul with regards to women in the church. The fear feeds on itself just like a hurricane over warm gulf waters. Fear of sinning and that to continue to do so will result in one’s ultimate consignment to hell.