Jesus chose 12 (Jewish) men because of the 12 tribes of Israel, he was trying to show the people of Israel that he is doing something NEW!At that point in time Men (Jewish) didn’t listen to women for that matter. Once enough Jewish Men or Men came to faith in Christ the Women would come along side and rule together with them equally, we see this in Creation of Adam & Eve! Yes God is a God of order but not in the way your thinking. I see a pattern here that the Lord is using but can in no way stop women from teaching Truth!

Scripture No where said women are easily influenced. That would make God look bad, almost saying Eve (The Woman) was made badly. We know from Scripture She was made Perfect Every Thing Was Very Good! I’ve studied these issues greatly and have degrees to back up my studying. I have alittle Jewish blood running through my veins from my mothers side of the family. So that got me to learn more about my Jewish roots so to speak. Just take an honest look at scripture with out reading anything into it. Please pray for God’s Truth Not Man’s!

Evangelist Michael Joseph Terran D.D.

Instead of a curse, God promises a Redeemer to take care of sin. He had already told Adam and Eve that they would die if they ate the fruit. Nothing else was a curse, it was a result of their now mortal bodies and the curse of the land.

It is better to read what God actually says then to “read into” scripture by reading a curse when God nowhere says such a thing. i.e. the land was cursed and the result was that Adam would have to fight the weeds and work the soil to get anything to grow. The result of the soil being cursed was hard work for Adam. Adam’s work was not the curse but the result of God’s cursing something else. The same thing for the woman. She would bear many more children as God increased her ability to conceive. That brought along hard work with all those children and the change in her cycles brought extreme pain. It was a hard thing to them to bear, but it was never called a curse.

It sounds to me like God himself curses and punishes Eve….as well as Adam. God does curse and God does punish people…personally….or have you forgotten about that small punishment called, “the great flood”? See, this is the problem with women interpreting the bible….you cannot do it without feeling emotion towards it…therefore you dilute it so it’s not so personal cause you can’t handle the truth.

You can say that it is clear but my friend, you need to look at the words. They are not a command. It says “he shall rule” not “he must rule over you” or I command him to rule. It is a fact.

It is also not a curse. God does not directly curse the man or the woman. The only thing that he curses is the ground and the animals. If you are going to misread even the basics in Genesis, what will you do with the rest of scripture?

Also, keep in mind the verse which states: ” God is the head of Jesus, Jesus is the head of man and man is the head of woman. You can no easier say that woman should be the head of man than you can say man should be equal to or the head of Jesus. There is an obvious heirarchy here and there is a reason for it. There is also another verse in the bible which commands the woman to no speak in church - but rather to wait until she gets home to discuss any questions she may have with her husband. Over and over again the bible is clear of the man’s duties as well as the woman’s and as long as we all follow God’s commandments there will be harmony in our homes and in our churches.

Of course man wants to be God and woman, likewise wants to replace the man. Inversion of the hierarchy. Standard rebellion of the spirit. Be careful - there is a reason Jesus Christ chose only men as his apostles and it wasn’t because he was a sexist. Women are too easily influenced by their emotions and will, inevitably, stray from the “truth”. God knew this which is why he asks the man to be the lead in the church and the head of the family. God chose only one man to start the Jewish nation while using various women - some of which were concubines. Just look at how bad it has gotten with men leading…..imagine the chaos and destruction if it were the woman. Good luck to you….

On the contrary most complementarians educated on the Hebrew will admit that the “rule” that is in Genesis 3:16 is a harsh rule and they admit that it is a result of sin. They do not say that God has commanded man to rule their wives in a harsh manner as the word “mashal” suggests.

No my friend, we cannot put words in God’s mouth and he nowhere says that woman is demoted from her original position. And he also did not ask Adam what Eve had done.

Lastly if in heaven we will be equal, then you at least are not as unbiblical as some like CBMW who say that women will be restricted from teaching or having authority as long as we are descended from Adam and Eve (and we will always be humans even in the resurrection so in essence they say the restrictions are eternal).

It is imperative that we do a better job when reading the scripture so as to not misrepresent God or misread God’s commands.

You speak incorrectly when you state that men are not to rule over the woman. Read the entire bible before quoting your favorite verses which enbolden your feminism. Try this verse for starters:

Genesis 3:16
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and
thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and
thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over
thee.

Sorry to burst your bubble but it would appear that God demoted the woman and put her under the rule of man because of her inability to be rational. Also note, in Genesis, that God when to Adam (the head) to ask what had happened and never asked the woman even though she was the one who ate from the tree first. The day women start preaching in church is the day the church begins to die. Perhaps that’s why God gave the commandment, “women obey your husbands” to women and to men He said, “Men love your wife”(notice wife…singular). Obedience implies submission. Love simply implies commitment….something most men have a problem with, hence the commandment from God to man.

Don’t take it personally - it’s just the way it is. There are certain things that need to be in order if things are to work properly. In heaven we will all be equal in absolute terms because Satan will not be there to take advantages of our weaknesses and human flaws. Meanwhile, obey God - submit and obey your husbands.

No matter how hard you women try to be like men or be “equal” to men it will never happen because it is not God’s will and God’s will is above all of us. His will cannot and will not be undone. Amen and Amen!

Good for you! I think you will find it very helpful because of the visual presentation. There is still a lot of information there jam packed into 3.5 hours and many people say that they need to watch it 3 times to grasp all the information but then it “clicks” for them and it has changed many lives. I look forward to other questions that you have as well as we go through 1 Corinthians 11 verse by verse.