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	<description>This blog is for dialogue on the issue of women in ministry and the freedom for women to teach the bible in a public setting.  It is also for questions and answers on our DVD entitled "Women in Ministry: Silenced or Set Free?"  This 4 DVD set answers the hard passages of scripture that seem to restrict women's ministry.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Terran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Terran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Don and Cheryl for this great info! I get it now.</description>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Schatz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl Schatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Genesis chapter 1 shows that God created man and then breathed into him.  As Don points out "man" refers to both male and female so we should be able to understand that God created both the man and the woman in the same direct way.  The only difference was the material that he used to create them from.  The man was created from the dirt and the woman was created from the side part of the man.  The dirt isn't what made man in the image of God, neither is the side the part that made the woman the image of God.  Both were created directly.

Being created from the dirt did not make the male inferior neither did being created from man (in his image) and in the image of God would have made the woman superior.  No, they were created equally in God's image and woman does not have a derivative image of God.  Chapter 1 nails that for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Genesis chapter 1 shows that God created man and then breathed into him.  As Don points out &#8220;man&#8221; refers to both male and female so we should be able to understand that God created both the man and the woman in the same direct way.  The only difference was the material that he used to create them from.  The man was created from the dirt and the woman was created from the side part of the man.  The dirt isn&#8217;t what made man in the image of God, neither is the side the part that made the woman the image of God.  Both were created directly.</p>
<p>Being created from the dirt did not make the male inferior neither did being created from man (in his image) and in the image of God would have made the woman superior.  No, they were created equally in God&#8217;s image and woman does not have a derivative image of God.  Chapter 1 nails that for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, Adam means human or groundling, or earthperson, etc. with a wordplay as Adam is derived from Adamah, dirt or ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Adam means human or groundling, or earthperson, etc. with a wordplay as Adam is derived from Adamah, dirt or ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2007/04/17/is-god-male/comment-page-1/#comment-4747</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam is the name for both the man and the woman, Gen 5:2.
The word indicating a male man is not used until the woman is formed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam is the name for both the man and the woman, Gen 5:2.<br />
The word indicating a male man is not used until the woman is formed.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Terran</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2007/04/17/is-god-male/comment-page-1/#comment-4746</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Terran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cheryl,

I have a quick question! When God made the Woman from Adam's side did he have to breath into her the breath of life to make her a living soul or did she get life from Adam meaning once her body was made it just came alive like a newborn baby? Please shine some light on this Cheryl!

I know in Genesis cha 1 he created them male and female. Does that imply breathing live into each one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cheryl,</p>
<p>I have a quick question! When God made the Woman from Adam&#8217;s side did he have to breath into her the breath of life to make her a living soul or did she get life from Adam meaning once her body was made it just came alive like a newborn baby? Please shine some light on this Cheryl!</p>
<p>I know in Genesis cha 1 he created them male and female. Does that imply breathing live into each one?</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2007/04/17/is-god-male/comment-page-1/#comment-1350</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Michael for those comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Michael for those comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Terran</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2007/04/17/is-god-male/comment-page-1/#comment-1337</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Terran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do see God using Female imagery like breast &#38; womb to show different aspects of himself etc. Also female imagery for the church of all believers as well (male &#38; female)...The Bride Of Christ!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do see God using Female imagery like breast &amp; womb to show different aspects of himself etc. Also female imagery for the church of all believers as well (male &amp; female)&#8230;The Bride Of Christ!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Terran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Terran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article was from:

 This item is available on the Apologetics Press web site at: http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/162 - it was originally published in Reason &#38; Revelation, issue 20[3]:21-23

AP Content :: Reason &#38; Revelation

Is God Male?
by Bert Thompson, Ph.D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article was from:</p>
<p> This item is available on the Apologetics Press web site at: <a href="http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/162" rel="nofollow">http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/162</a> - it was originally published in Reason &amp; Revelation, issue 20[3]:21-23</p>
<p>AP Content :: Reason &amp; Revelation</p>
<p>Is God Male?<br />
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		<title>By: Michael Terran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Terran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this article on Is God Male? I posted two comments on this article. It is long so I'm only posting what I commented on, ok!

1. Spirits—because they are non-corporeal beings—have no physical body and thus by definition are incapable of possessing gender. In speaking of the humans who one day will inhabit the heavenly realm, Jesus remarked that they “neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are as angels” (Matthew 22:30). His point was that we shall not take up our earthly gender roles in heaven, just as the angels, as spirit beings, have played no gender roles throughout their existence. Similarly, God, as a Spirit Being Who inhabits the heavenly realm, has no gender. 
  
(My comment on this statement:) There are no gender Roles/ a good book to read is Beyond Sex Roles, God is not a respecter of persons etc. The HOLY SPIRIT fell on all Acts 2.
 
 The Angels I don't think are sexless, we know they can take on male human form from scripture! Also that demon or demons apparition of Mary, is an evil spirit/s pretending to be Mary...a woman! so they can "appear" female in a spirit/ghostly like sense. There are things about the angels we don't know. But we do know that they are all single, not given in marriage! We don't lose our gender in heaven because we our in God's image Man (Male &#38; Female). "Like the angels" not we are angels or will become angels!
  
2. Why, then, if God has no gender, do the Scriptures refer to Him via masculine names and metaphors? And must we refer to Him via masculine names and metaphors? 
The answer to the first question has to do with both history and authority. From a historical standpoint, the fact is that every known ancient religion—except one—posited both gods and goddesses as beings worthy of worship. The lone exception was Judaism. Kreeft and Tacelli, in their Handbook of Christian Apologetics, addressed this matter when they wrote: 

The Jewish revelation was distinctive in its exclusively masculine pronoun because it was distinctive in its theology of the divine transcendence. That seems to be the main point of the masculine imagery. As a man comes into a woman from without to make her pregnant, so God creates the universe from without rather than birthing it from within and impregnates our souls with grace or supernatural life from without. As a woman cannot impregnate herself, so the universe cannot create itself, nor can the soul redeem itself. Surely there is an inherent connection between these two radically distinctive features of the...biblical religions...: their unique view of a transcendent God creating nature out of nothing and their refusal to call God “she” despite the fact that Scripture ascribes to him feminine attributes like compassionate nursing (Is. 49:15), motherly comfort (Is. 66:13) and carrying an infant (Is. 46:3). The masculine pronoun safeguards (1) the transcendence of God against the illusion that nature is born from God as a mother rather than created and (2) the grace of God against the illusion that we can somehow save ourselves—two illusions ubiquitous and inevitable in the history of religion (1994, p. 98, emp. in orig.).
 
(My Comment on this statement:)This is very helpful. God uses He/Father so noone can say God birthed himself or He had a beginning,because God has no beginning or end! The Goddess cults &#38; gonostic's were teaching strange stuff Myths etc. Just Read the books of Tim..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this article on Is God Male? I posted two comments on this article. It is long so I&#8217;m only posting what I commented on, ok!</p>
<p>1. Spirits—because they are non-corporeal beings—have no physical body and thus by definition are incapable of possessing gender. In speaking of the humans who one day will inhabit the heavenly realm, Jesus remarked that they “neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are as angels” (Matthew 22:30). His point was that we shall not take up our earthly gender roles in heaven, just as the angels, as spirit beings, have played no gender roles throughout their existence. Similarly, God, as a Spirit Being Who inhabits the heavenly realm, has no gender. </p>
<p>(My comment on this statement:) There are no gender Roles/ a good book to read is Beyond Sex Roles, God is not a respecter of persons etc. The HOLY SPIRIT fell on all Acts 2.</p>
<p> The Angels I don&#8217;t think are sexless, we know they can take on male human form from scripture! Also that demon or demons apparition of Mary, is an evil spirit/s pretending to be Mary&#8230;a woman! so they can &#8220;appear&#8221; female in a spirit/ghostly like sense. There are things about the angels we don&#8217;t know. But we do know that they are all single, not given in marriage! We don&#8217;t lose our gender in heaven because we our in God&#8217;s image Man (Male &amp; Female). &#8220;Like the angels&#8221; not we are angels or will become angels!</p>
<p>2. Why, then, if God has no gender, do the Scriptures refer to Him via masculine names and metaphors? And must we refer to Him via masculine names and metaphors?<br />
The answer to the first question has to do with both history and authority. From a historical standpoint, the fact is that every known ancient religion—except one—posited both gods and goddesses as beings worthy of worship. The lone exception was Judaism. Kreeft and Tacelli, in their Handbook of Christian Apologetics, addressed this matter when they wrote: </p>
<p>The Jewish revelation was distinctive in its exclusively masculine pronoun because it was distinctive in its theology of the divine transcendence. That seems to be the main point of the masculine imagery. As a man comes into a woman from without to make her pregnant, so God creates the universe from without rather than birthing it from within and impregnates our souls with grace or supernatural life from without. As a woman cannot impregnate herself, so the universe cannot create itself, nor can the soul redeem itself. Surely there is an inherent connection between these two radically distinctive features of the&#8230;biblical religions&#8230;: their unique view of a transcendent God creating nature out of nothing and their refusal to call God “she” despite the fact that Scripture ascribes to him feminine attributes like compassionate nursing (Is. 49:15), motherly comfort (Is. 66:13) and carrying an infant (Is. 46:3). The masculine pronoun safeguards (1) the transcendence of God against the illusion that nature is born from God as a mother rather than created and (2) the grace of God against the illusion that we can somehow save ourselves—two illusions ubiquitous and inevitable in the history of religion (1994, p. 98, emp. in orig.).</p>
<p>(My Comment on this statement:)This is very helpful. God uses He/Father so noone can say God birthed himself or He had a beginning,because God has no beginning or end! The Goddess cults &amp; gonostic&#8217;s were teaching strange stuff Myths etc. Just Read the books of Tim..</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2007/04/17/is-god-male/comment-page-1/#comment-764</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thoughts, Don.  I never considered before the thought that God never talks in metaphors about male genitals.  Interesting.

I do think that he created gender to show aspects of who he is and I also think it was to have a way for us to have "oneness" with another person.  There is that mystery about Christ and the church that is expressed in gender and oneness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thoughts, Don.  I never considered before the thought that God never talks in metaphors about male genitals.  Interesting.</p>
<p>I do think that he created gender to show aspects of who he is and I also think it was to have a way for us to have &#8220;oneness&#8221; with another person.  There is that mystery about Christ and the church that is expressed in gender and oneness.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Johnson</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2007/04/17/is-god-male/comment-page-1/#comment-763</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you.  Here is my understanding.

1. God is so far beyond us that we cannot comprehend.  We are finite and God is not finite.  In order to allow us to even begin to understand aspects of God, God will use similes and metaphors, else we would be mostly clueless about God.
2. As far as I can figure out, the only description of God that may not be a simile or metaphor is that God is "Holy, Holy, Holy".
3. The OT has some references to God as "our Father".  Jesus went even further with "my Father" and "abba".
4. The OT also says that God has breasts and a womb, but I cannot find where God is said to have male genitals.
5. My conclusion is that God incorporates aspects of both genders.  That is, God is not gendered, God created gender and one reason to do so was to show us aspects of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you.  Here is my understanding.</p>
<p>1. God is so far beyond us that we cannot comprehend.  We are finite and God is not finite.  In order to allow us to even begin to understand aspects of God, God will use similes and metaphors, else we would be mostly clueless about God.<br />
2. As far as I can figure out, the only description of God that may not be a simile or metaphor is that God is &#8220;Holy, Holy, Holy&#8221;.<br />
3. The OT has some references to God as &#8220;our Father&#8221;.  Jesus went even further with &#8220;my Father&#8221; and &#8220;abba&#8221;.<br />
4. The OT also says that God has breasts and a womb, but I cannot find where God is said to have male genitals.<br />
5. My conclusion is that God incorporates aspects of both genders.  That is, God is not gendered, God created gender and one reason to do so was to show us aspects of God.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2007/04/17/is-god-male/comment-page-1/#comment-730</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Pastor Bob for that encouraging word!  Amen, amen, the Bible trumps Holy Tradition every time.  Let God be found true though every man a liar. (Romans 3:4).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Pastor Bob for that encouraging word!  Amen, amen, the Bible trumps Holy Tradition every time.  Let God be found true though every man a liar. (Romans 3:4).</p>
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		<title>By: R. K. McGregor Wright</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2007/04/17/is-god-male/comment-page-1/#comment-729</link>
		<dc:creator>R. K. McGregor Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Cheryl:  I have just encountered your magnificent work on WIM, and I am completely sympathetic (as a Calvinistic Baptist ordained by one of their SBC churches in 1979).  I also wrote a chapter in InterVarsity's Discovering Biblical Equality (IVP, 2005) on this nonsense about God being male.  Your DVD set will help a lot of puzzled people get this issue straight in their own minds.  There is so much confusing speculation on the topic, and not enough serious consideration of the actual logical possibilities of the relevant texts.  The reason so many Pastors don't make any effort to answer you is because they can't.  You're right and they're wrong.  The Bible trumps Holy Tradition every time.....   Love, Bob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Cheryl:  I have just encountered your magnificent work on WIM, and I am completely sympathetic (as a Calvinistic Baptist ordained by one of their SBC churches in 1979).  I also wrote a chapter in InterVarsity&#8217;s Discovering Biblical Equality (IVP, 2005) on this nonsense about God being male.  Your DVD set will help a lot of puzzled people get this issue straight in their own minds.  There is so much confusing speculation on the topic, and not enough serious consideration of the actual logical possibilities of the relevant texts.  The reason so many Pastors don&#8217;t make any effort to answer you is because they can&#8217;t.  You&#8217;re right and they&#8217;re wrong.  The Bible trumps Holy Tradition every time&#8230;..   Love, Bob.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2007/04/17/is-god-male/comment-page-1/#comment-649</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 02:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>H,

I agree that God is indeed sovereign and I don't think anyone of us dare tell him what he can and can't do especially regarding the gifts that he gives to individual members of the body of Christ. If we loved each other as he asked us to love, then we would rejoice when another member is honored and used for God's purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H,</p>
<p>I agree that God is indeed sovereign and I don&#8217;t think anyone of us dare tell him what he can and can&#8217;t do especially regarding the gifts that he gives to individual members of the body of Christ. If we loved each other as he asked us to love, then we would rejoice when another member is honored and used for God&#8217;s purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: hannibal.lecture</title>
		<link>http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2007/04/17/is-god-male/comment-page-1/#comment-648</link>
		<dc:creator>hannibal.lecture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 06:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's assume for just one moment that God is indeed male. In the same space we'll even say that he bears
an uncanny resemblance to Gandalf the White. Do these
two conditions in and of themselves cogently argue
for the centuries old proscription concerning women
in ministry? Not any more than "Dominion" and "Manifest Destiny" are valid endorsements for the
wholesale rape and plunder of the Earth. What's my
point? Simply this , God is sovereign and will do as
He sees fit. To say that He cannot raise up brilliant
women to teach His word is pure hubris...
Respectfully,
H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s assume for just one moment that God is indeed male. In the same space we&#8217;ll even say that he bears<br />
an uncanny resemblance to Gandalf the White. Do these<br />
two conditions in and of themselves cogently argue<br />
for the centuries old proscription concerning women<br />
in ministry? Not any more than &#8220;Dominion&#8221; and &#8220;Manifest Destiny&#8221; are valid endorsements for the<br />
wholesale rape and plunder of the Earth. What&#8217;s my<br />
point? Simply this , God is sovereign and will do as<br />
He sees fit. To say that He cannot raise up brilliant<br />
women to teach His word is pure hubris&#8230;<br />
Respectfully,<br />
H.</p>
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